April 1, 2021

music, mental health & self-care w/ Caity Gallagher

An old friend joins the show to discuss her solo singing career, taking us behind-the-scenes of her latest music video and her songwriting approach. And, as a mental health counselor, Caity talks about some coping strategies for navigating tough times (19:12).
Caity Gallagher is a 28-year-old Albany-based musician. Her new single, "Pressed Flowers," is available on YouTube and Spotify. She's also a mental health counselor, connecting with clients across the Capital Region who simply want to live their best lives. 
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Hey, I'm Caity Gallagher. I'm 28. And my quote is I still believe that everyone is beautiful in some way. And by seeing the beauty in others, we make ourselves more beautiful than that. Okay. And what does that mean to you? That is a quote that actually, so my mom was a third grade teacher for about 32 years.

I believe she just retired last year and she had that framed outside of her doorway. Um, and I always really liked that because I feel like it's a way of just kind of saying, instead of comparing yourself to others, or instead of feeling like you have to find a way to kind of one up somebody to make yourself feel good, notice all the positive qualities and other people in the beauty and others, because that's just going to make you feel good about yourself as well.

And I think that, that, you know, and the state of the world today and music, and just, there's so many ways that we. Can see what's wrong or different about somebody's wrong and quotes. Um, And instead, I think it would be a lot more helpful if we recognized what's beautiful about other people,

something on the passion, check something about the work you can't seem to put to it, everyone. And welcome to another edition of the Troy Farkas show, a podcast that is not about me. It's about all of us, twenties are a crucial time in our lives. And on this show, we navigate the highs and lows of early adulthood together.

I'm so excited for today's show because I am talking to someone that I haven't spoken to. In a couple of years, we had a couple of years age difference. So we've been in different paths in our life, but she is an amazing person. One of the truly, most genuine people that I have ever met. She lights up a room.

Everyone loves her. I never met a person that does not like Katie Gallagher. She is one of the most people that I know. She's an incredible musician. She has some awesome music out there that is out there for you to check out. You just heard some of her song right there, pressed flowers, new single the video is out.

Now we're going to talk about that. We're going to talk about her creative writing process. We're going to talk about. Delineating between sharing too much and too little talk about the last year as musician and what's coming forward as a musician. I also learned shortly before we started recording that she's also in mental health counseling.

That is her day job. She's not a full-time musician as much as I'm sure she would like to be. And that I'm really glad that we got to talk about because mental health is something that is very important to me. It is very important to many of the listeners of the show and just our generation. In general, we are the mental health generation.

It is something that we care about that we are trying to. Steer the conversation toward that we are trying to take control of because it is just so important and people who came before us do not think it's that important, or they think that we're weak. They think that we're soft. They think that, Oh, if we're dealing with depression, that it's a sign of weakness.

No. It is not, it is not a sign of weakness. And so me and Katie are going to dive into all of those things today as well. So I'm super excited to talk to Katie. I hope you guys enjoyed the conversation, then we'll have some more thoughts for you on the back end, but here's my conversation with the great Katie Gallagher.

I don't think. Anyone has ever been in a room with Katie Gallagher and has been upset. Katie, I've got a bunch of fit and a bunch of nice things to say about you first, but first. I just want to welcome you. Welcome Katie. Thank you for today. Thank you so much. I'm excited to be here. Awesome. A backstory of how I met you.

So let's rewind to my freshman year at UAlbany. I believe you were a senior at this time. So we were in the same choir together. Shout out to, uh, to John Gray, the, the instructor. So, uh, my freshman year, this is the. Spring of 2015, I'm kind of in a bad place. I'm not liking you all me that much. Not sure if it's the right place for me.

I'm undeclared. What am I doing with my life? I just got, uh, just had a bad breakup with a girl I was dating for a long time. So I'm all over the place. I'm in the wrong place. I don't want to be there. Et cetera, et cetera. But I picked myself up, uh, because you guys, you and your great friend, Alec wrote a musical called three Oh eight B, which you know, three Oh eight dash B and apartment, uh, that was that you guys had fondly in your hearts.

And so I auditioned for it and here I am never been in a musical in my life. I used a musical experience, but it was something that I had always wanted to do. I'd never been able to do it just because of timing purposes before that. But you guys have me as Johnny, the bartender. And I got to say Katie, that soundtrack from three Oh eight B, it was fire.

I watched that DVD. Back several times and I loved the music. I loved the music. You guys are super talented. And thank you for letting me be a part of that, because that show, and then the show I was in the next year ended up being my favorite memories of you all. Oh my God. That is really nice to hear.

Thank you. And you know, it's funny. I have the DVD, I've been too nervous to watch it. It's been like six years and I still, it lost it back. Nope. Wow, man, I will. I'm just waiting for three Oh eight B to a, to hit Broadway. Well, thank you for joining me, Katie. So you are a very talented person. You are one of the most talented musicians.

I know Katie Gallagher music is where you can find her on, on Instagram. On Facebook. You have a new music video out called pressed flowers. I want to start out there. What was the process like for making a music video? So that was actually a pretty unique experience. Um, I, it was a friend of mine that had reached out and he was working with a bigger company that did a lot of corporate gigs.

So they didn't really get to exercise their creativity with their videos. And he was like, you know, I like your music, any chance. Um, you want to film a music video for free. And I was like, that is enough where I can't pass up. I already know that his name's Chris says me. I already know he did great stuff.

So we started, um, we did like a few weeks of texting back and forth trying to figure out a theme. He brought in a few of his friends and the like concept idea of it. But it's weird because the song pressed flowers, I didn't have an actual experience that I wrote that based on, it was more, just very, um, abstract.

So I really didn't know what I wanted to do with it in terms of the story. And he and his colleagues came up with the idea of kind of having it be someone almost like, like walking through time, not really being seen until the end. And I think that kind of. Translates within the video where I have my bandmates kind of planning like bartender or bar patrons and guys kind of playing cards.

And I'm just kind of there in the background. And then at the very end, it's kind of like I'm in the spotlight. So I thought that was a really cool concept. Yeah, it's really cool video. And whenever I watch a music video, I am just always thinking in my head, where did they come up with this w what was going through their minds that.

Um, you know, in the whole creative process that made them think that this was the best way to express the song. So it's really cool that you got to kind of get an eye into, into that process now. So I'm just, sure. So you said that that song isn't really based on a, an experience of yours is that it's more abstract.

What is the creative writing process like for you? How do you come up with your songs? It's a very frustrating process because it's very like. Zero to a hundred, so I can go, honestly, I was just talking to someone earlier today about how I've been in such a, a writer's block and like a creative block. And.

Half an hour before we have done this call, I just wrote half a song. So it's something that just kind of comes out, but it can get really frustrating when I know that I want to write something like I'm really hoping to, to put out a full, full length album at some point this year, or at least start the recording process for that.

And I have nowhere close to 10 songs, so it's really, I have to sit and just kind of let it happen because if I think too hard, nothing, nothing works. So yeah, honestly, I do my own writing, not musical writing, but just, just my own writing on my own time. And you can be sitting in the chair trying to force yourself to come up with something and you just can't get it.

But then you'll be out on a walk. You'll be in the car. Something will just come to you and you just where's my paper. Where's my phone. I need to get my notes page and write it down. Absolutely. And that's actually where the sun hour drive started out because I was making the hour long drive from my parents' house back to Albany.

And I kept thinking of these lyrics and I kept having to pull over on the, um, the three-way to jot them down. And that's kind of within the lyrics of the song. So when I am writing and talking. I always find it hard to delineate. What do I want to keep for me versus what do I want, what am I comfortable getting out there?

Do you ever struggle with kind of like towing that balance between what is something that I should just keep to myself and what is something that I would like other people to, to know from my music? Yes, I do. And that's actually, um, I started writing poetry specifically during quarantine. So like last March time.

Um, and that I really only shared with a few people and I think that I'll probably keep it that way. Um, I liked it cause it didn't have to be like a normal rhyme scheme. It didn't have to have a melody to it. It could be a little bit more freeform and raw. But I'm like, I don't know if I want everyone to know that thought process that I just had.

So it's nice. Cause I could use that format when I want to keep it more private. And then anything that I feel like is a message either that just rings true for myself or that I want other people to feel as well and relate to. I can then put that in. Exactly. Yeah. When I, when I'm writing. It's a very personal process.

And when you're writing music or poetry, I imagine, I imagine it's the same way. So I'm always just constantly wrestling with. And even then when I, when I put something out there, I kick myself and like, why did I say that? I shouldn't have said that. I struggle with that. Um, yeah. Going back to, you know, the last year of your life.

Obviously this has been a tough year for everyone, but especially for people in the music industry, I imagine that most of your income from music was coming on live performances, being out and about in that hop in Albany bar scene, that there was playing at places like druthers and whatnot. So, um, but it's the last year been like for you?

Honestly, I mean, it's, it hasn't been as bad as it could be. So I'm very fortunate for the fact that I have a degree in mental health counseling, and I was able to go back into that field and. Unfortunately, that's something that a lot of people really need right now. So it was very easy to get a job in that field.

Again, um, it was tough musically because I was singing with a wedding band, which was very, very fun and very lucrative and obviously weddings weren't happening. So I haven't been able to do that in over a year, but when, um, when patio started to open up, I knew that people were really like craving that normalcy of live music.

So I did end up booking a good amount of gigs last summer. I want to come back to, to the mental health portion of this a little bit later, but staying in this last year, how had, how has music helped you personally just kind of stay positive. You're naturally optimistic and positive and smiley person, but I can, I can imagine that there weren't some tough times.

Oh yeah, absolutely. And I think. That can exist at the same time where I do genuinely feel like, like I never really smile in a way that I'm like, eh, I don't really feel like smiling, but I will anyway, that's always genuine, but I feel like I could be struggling and feeling some of that anxiety and uncertainty at the same time.

And I think that's probably true for a lot of people. So it's a weird balance of kind of feeling everything all at once and delineating like, all right. What am I going to do with all of this? So music has been helpful because it's a way to kind of express that. And then that also, I mean, there's so many songs by artists that I love that have helped me through this time.

So kind of. All of that put together. Oh, my cat is joining us. I hope you don't. I love that. Please, please welcome him or her. Yes, Andrea. Come on. So she'll hop up eventually. Wow. Wait, we had a cat make an appearance last week. Maybe this is now the, uh, the count podcast. I love it. Um, Oh, Hey Andrea. So, um, who are you?

You just mentioned some of your, your musical inspirations. Who, who are they? Who do you look up to get your inspiration from? Um, songwriting wise, Jackson Brown and Carol King, because they both are very good with like lyrically driven, kind of simple orchestration telling stories and telling stories that so many people can connect to.

I at least would assume. Um, so I really love them. Ben folds is one of my favorite. I think he's. He's extremely talented on piano. And he's so funny. Um, I really have been getting into Lake street, dive and Rustin Kelly as well. This year. Those are two of my kind of quarantine. Deep dives. Uh, fun fact. So my family went to Cape Cod for vacation, 15 summers in a row.

I'm still mad about it, that we went to the same place, 15 years around, but every single summer for the car ride, we would listen to Ben folds five. Uh, I forget the name of the album, but it's the, the orange CD of whatever and ever amen. Yes. Yes. Great, great album. Brick is one of my favorite songs of all time.

Uh, Ben folds is insanely talented for me, musically, during quarantine. I discovered a couple of people, obviously Katie Gallagher first and foremost, but I already knew about you. Um, juice world. I fell in love with juice world. It sucks that I came to know him after he tragically passed new swirled. And then of course getting ever more familiar with my girl Halsy yes, absolutely.

So, what do you love most about music and about performing? Ooh, that's a good question. It's so interesting. Cause I love it so much, but I don't ever know if I've really thought about why. Um, but the first thing that's coming up for me, definitely that sense of connection. And it's nice. I mean, I'm kind of a people pleaser and I like making people happy.

So it's nice to, to perform and connect with people and do something that I can enjoy as well as the people listening to me will hopefully enjoy. Um, I like that I can express something that maybe would help somebody get through something that they're going through. It's similar. And I just think it's really fun.

Yeah, I, um, that's why I just love kind of the, the arts in general, whether it's music, painting, writing, whatever it is, because it's just the ultimate form of self expression, you know exactly what you're saying, but the person that is viewing, listening, reading, or whatever might not know exactly what you're saying.

And that's kind of cool. I know whenever I go to, I love going to art museums. And so I just love kind of dissecting a painting here. What, what is the artist trying to say? And similarly with music because it's not always in the lyrics just completely spelled out for you. So that's why I personally love it.

Absolutely. And I've been having fun, trying to be a little bit more abstract with lyrics because then people can take whatever they want from it. So what do you ultimately see as your, your future in music? What do you want it to look like? What, what is your, your dream. Hmm, well, a year and a half ago, I would have said touring musician, that I'm wondering how long it's going to take for that to be a, a possibility, even for people who were actively touring before the pandemic.

So I think I've readjusted that a little bit, but it's something I always want to be a significant part of my life, but I don't want to put too strict of a goal onto it. Cause I don't want to. Um, I guess I don't want to have something unrealistic that makes what I'm doing in the moment. Not feel like enough.

Does that make sense? So I think just continuing to enjoy it and taking steps to keep recording and keep expanding where I'm playing without being too strict about it. Yeah. I think that's something that people think about a lot. You know, you have your, your arts, you, you have this creative endeavor that is a passion of yours that you.

In a perfect world, you would probably rather be doing that full time, making money than being, you know, in the mental health space, which is great, which is awesome. I'm so glad that you're in it, but in a perfect world, I imagine you would rather be doing that for, for the majority of your, of your day. So people always kind of think that they need to make that.

Passion of theirs, like their, their full-time gig, but then when they actually do and they make a leap of some sort, then they actually start to resent it because now. Now you're actually are relying on it and it's not as easy to break through in it as maybe you thought before. Exactly. And I think a lot of the time, and I've heard this from friends and I felt this myself, you connect so much of your identity and your self-worth to.

So your self as a musician or as an artist. And I really don't like that because I think even if it's something that you do all the time and it is a huge part of you, it's never the biggest part of you. So that can be like a dangerous game to a feeling like you need to be booking gigs and you need to be making money to be, feel, to feel like you're worth it as an artist.

What are you most looking forward to this summer with music? Um, I'm looking forward to getting back to some of the places that I played last year and that I played before the pandemic. And hopefully everyone is vaccinated and feeling safe at that point in restrictions are lifted a little bit. And I'm looking forward to that, like that fun, summer relaxing feeling where your friends and family are in the crowd and it's just like a good time.

And you're able to be around people again. Yeah. I think it's going to be a wild summer, I think. Yeah. Whether people are vaccinated or not. Uh, I think it's gonna be wild summer just because I feel like people are so tired of everything. And once the, I mean, you saw it last summer, even when, uh, when the weather is really nice.

You're just not going to keep people inside no matter why, especially when you've got people like you playing at their favorite bars. Thank you. Uh, all right. So I want to transition a little bit into your, uh, what you are doing for, for your day job. So you graduated from, from U Albany, you got a master's in the mental health field.

So can you tell me what, what is exactly now that you are doing on a day to day? Yeah. So right now I'm doing something pretty similar to this. It's just all tele-health for individual clients. Um, and it's based in the capital region area. So I just do weekly sessions and. Yeah, it's all across the board, different demographics, which keeps things really interesting.

And I honestly love it a lot more than I thought I would, because I used to get so nervous about getting too connected to clients and getting so emotionally drained. And I think the tele-health platform has made it easier to keep a boundary and just growing as a clinician in general, I've, I've really enjoyed this current job that I'm at.

Isn't it, isn't it better though, to, to make that connection? Isn't that ultimately what they're coming to you for? In what way? Like, like a pretty good connection. Yeah. I'm just saying like, you know, if I'm going to go see someone to talk about my mental health, I want to get the feeling, the impression that they genuinely care about me and that we're connecting on a deep level.

I don't necessarily know that. I just want to keep it so. I'm the patient. You are the, you know, you are the therapist, you are the advisor or whatever it is. Yes, absolutely. And I do think that that's what I, I can't speak for my clients, but I would hope that that feeling is there. And I, I feel that on my end, I think in my last job I was doing home-based.

With family. So I was going in people's homes for six to eight hours a week and working with really little kids. And I think that that job specifically, it became something where I was thinking about them all weekend. It was hard to like to switch into my personal life after the nine to five was over.

And so that turned into something that was just kind of all consuming. And I think with this platform, I also have made it a point to not work 40 hours a week. I kind of cap it at 25. Um, and that way I have a better balance where I could be present for my clients during our time, and then not feel that kind of compassion fatigue after.

Okay. That's, I'm really glad you said that because I'm actually in this new job that I have, I'm kind of doing the same thing myself, because I think we can tell from studies around the world of some of the happiest countries, the countries that are doing it right. I think of the Scandinavia area or other places in Europe that cap their number of hours work.

You know, a week at like 30, 35, not 40. We are the workaholics of the world. And it is a crazy expectation that that is placed upon us to work 40, 50, 60 hours a week. Um, so I'm really glad that you do that because I'm doing that for myself too. I spend the first four hours of my day, every day, doing things for me, I wake up really early, so it's not so from like five to 9:00 AM or whatever, and then.

Then I worked for a couple hours, then maybe I exercise or go for a walk, get some sun, whatever it is, because that is very important. And then do some, do some more tasks. Absolutely. And working from home has added to that too, because that's an hour and a half of a commute that I don't have any more. So, you know, you can do yoga and cook yourself a nice breakfast and still get that full work day in.

Yeah. During the crazy last year, plus that it's been what have been the most common. Ailments. I don't know if that's the right word, but the most common complaints problems that people are coming to you with. It's a lot of anxiety and uncertainty about the future, especially when I was starting last year when we really didn't have a lot of answers, there was no.

Really information about a vaccine or anything like that. And just a lot of like life stressors and how this has impacted people's jobs, families, healthcare, things like that. So it's not a lot of it's interesting. Cause I think a lot of times people assume you can go to therapy and get advice and answers for things.

And that's not really what it is. It's more providing support and kind of, I, I have the outlook that my clients know. What they need at just, they might need a guide to help them find those answers. And that's what I try to be. Yeah. I I'm dealing with dealing with mental health is hard. I think all, all of us have definitely had our struggles of course, in the past.

But even me right now, moving out to a new place on my own. Don't don't really know anyone. I'm kind of isolated. I definitely have my bad days. You know, I have a BA I'm a very productive, a very efficient person. I liked. Getting shit done. And, but then you maybe just have one day a week where you're just kind of paralyzed by.

I don't want to be an active participant in human life today. I just want to lay in bed and I want to read, or I want to watch TV, TV, whatever, whatever it is. So, you know, the most common things with like depression is that, you know exactly what you need to do to get better, but you just cannot physically bring yourself to do it.

It's crazy. Yes. Yeah. And that's where I really try to be as holistic as possible. And I, I think like a person centered approach is what they would call it within like the theoretical models for therapy, but it's really taking. Each client case in an individual and unique way. And so some people I might recommend medication, I might recommend physical therapy, yoga, um, energy healing.

There's so many different modalities. And I don't think talk therapy is ever the only one. I mean, some, for some people, it is some people have their, those coping skills and those other ways of taking care of themselves already. But I think it's always beneficial to try at least a few others and see, see what works.

What are some of your own favorite, um, methods of dealing with mental health issues? For me personally, I was seeing a therapist for a bit too, and that was really helpful. Um, I really like yoga, mindfulness. I try to, not really. I try not to push anything on anyone, but I always try to bring up some sort of like gratitude practice and journaling.

Just any ways to get yourself expressing how you feel and however many methods possible. I love that. Yeah. I, um, I adopt a lot of those, those same things, whether it is yoga, whether it is meditation, whether it is journaling. I do that every day and night, all very important things. The problem that I, and sometimes I get pushback from, and it's usually from the older generation that I, um, you know, that I take so much attention on self care and whatnot, and they're like, Hey, stop caring about yourself so much and start doing adult tasks.

Like, do you see that happening? Yeah. And I will say that the majority of my clients are between 18 and 35 years old, but even, I mean, I'm 28 and anyone really a generation above me either. They haven't heard of self care before, or it's like, it's kind of a thing that makes them uncomfortable. And I think for so many generations, it was.

Looked down upon to be, people will call it self centered, but I like to call it self focused and self prioritized. And when you are taking care of yourself, it makes it that much easier to do what you need to do for everyone else. Exactly. I always say that there's just a certain amount of things or a certain amount of.

Time that I need to spend on myself in order for me to be the best version of myself when you guys need me, whether, whether it's for work or whether it's for family time or socializing, whatever it is. So I'm glad that the stigma is being removed because some, some people will say, Oh, you know, he he's just being lazy.

He doesn't want to do anything. You know, he just wants to be by himself. It's no, I there's just things that I need to do for me every day. It is a never-ending thing. Um, So I'm glad that minds are starting to be opened, but there's definitely, uh, some more mind opening that could be used. Yeah. And I think the best way to change someone's mind is to ask them to try it themselves.

And if they notice within themselves like, Oh wow, I have more energy. And I'm able to, you know, do my job where I work with little kids or talk to my boss easier and kind of recognize the changes within themselves. Do any of your clients struggle with issues ever kind of bleed? Into you in the sense that you wrap up an appointment or whatever, and something that's going on in their lives makes you feel some type of way.

A lot of the time. And I, I attribute that to being a pretty empathetic person in general. So if I'm not really careful, I could feel the emotions of other people just in general. And that could be my friends and family or my clients, but because client sessions are centered on. The concerns that someone's having, that just makes me all the more susceptible to feel what they're feeling a little bit.

So I try really hard to, I mean, I've really only been working home for a week or so, but driving into the office, you kind of have that conscious awareness of I'm starting my day. And then when you drive and ending my day and really making that a separate time. Do you feel that this telehealth model that you guys have going on right now, do you think this is here to stay because of how efficient and easy it is or do you think once everything is totally normal?

Again, that it'll just go back to, I really think it's here to stay. I think it's so helpful. A lot of my clients wouldn't have time to drive to the office in between childcare and work. And I see a lot of people on their lunch breaks and they're able to carve out that time because it's flexible and they can, you know, they can put me on speaker phone in their car if they need to during their commute home.

So I think there are certain people that would really benefit from face-to-face more. And. I do hope that I think actually that really is going to start to come back if people really need it and would prefer it. But I like the, this is also going to be an option that insurance companies now will reimburse as well.

So yeah, I, I had someone else on the show a couple months ago that said that insurance companies at jobs are starting to, you know, waive fees for, for therapists, for mental health, which I think is great. That that is just kind of a, at a big level. Realizing that this is an important thing that we, uh, that we need to deal with it.

Absolutely. Okay. So I want to wrap up here. So every week on the show, my guest comes on and I asked them to talk about an organization, a cause a charity, something that means something to them that has maybe impacted them in their lives that has impacted someone else that they know. Um, and so then what I, what I do is you, we talk about it.

I donate to it. After the recording, I post some links to where other people can donate to it. I post some information about it on the tree frog store.com to show its website and encourage all the listeners and viewers to give to it as well. So Katie Gallagher, what is your cost today? So I chose planned Parenthood and I will say full disclosure.

I have never utilized their services, but I think that. It is so important and for some reason, so controversial. And so I think as much positive, uh, you know, as many positive comments as I can make about them, I would love to, because I think with clients that I work with, uh, friends with just so many people who might not have, uh, insurance through work, who don't have anywhere else to go or anywhere else to have as like a confident, for very vulnerable topics.

Anyone in the LGBTQ community, they have so many services that I think are so important and so needed. And I feel like there is that risk of them not being funded as much as they need to be. So that's the organization that I chose. Yeah, I'm really glad that you chose that one. Thank you. Thank you for sharing.

And I will share more information about it. I'm not a political person at all. I really don't care too much about it, but for some reason, this, you know, this is a very politicized issue and of all the political issues out there to get heated on. This is the one I get heated. About the most. I fully agree with it, with everything that you said.

So I'm super glad that that I'm going to get to this and that hopefully some of my listeners will as well. Um, Katie, thank you for joining me today. It has been awesome. Seeing your face catching up with you and hearing more about your music. I will tell the people where they, where they can listen to you.

Go check out Katie. Her music is awesome. It will, it will brighten your day when you are singing. I can, I can hear you smiling through your music. I feel like people have probably said that to you before. I love it. Or Katie, thank you so much for joining me. Best of luck. You just bought a house of all places.

So congratulations on that. And when I'm back in town, I'll, uh, I'll have to see one of your shows. Can't wait. Absolutely. Thank you so much for that.

Shout out to Katie. It really good conversation, really important conversation that, that I'm glad that we had there about planned Parenthood. Um, you can donate to that in the, uh, by clicking the link in the show notes of this podcast, um, and about mental health, it is just such a hot button issue to some that is not going away to something that is only going to become more important.

And it has obviously been so important for so many of us. During the last year. And I'm so glad that she is being a soldier on the ground, trying to make the world a better place, trying to help people. Um, I think that's what we all want to do. So congrats, Katie, and all of your success. If you want to check out her music, Katie Gallagher music.

On the platforms, Instagram, Facebook, YouTube, she's on Spotify as Beau Katie Gallagher. She's also done some great music with a group called honey slider in the past. She was in honey slider with, um, or still is in honey cider with Alec Lewis, who was her? Co-writer in three Oh eight B that musical from my freshman year that you all knew, which honestly was such an amazing experience.

Johnny, the bartender. I never been in a show before. I had always wanted to. When I was in high school, I was a basketball player, basketball season, musical season, where the same season, I could not be in two places at once. I prioritize basketball, but I absolutely love music. I love singing. I love performing.

I had so many friends that were in the musical theater scene and I would go support them and to watch them. And I wanted to be there so badly. So when I got to college, I said, this is something that I need to do. And even though I wasn't in the best place mentally, I got myself up out of bed. And I did it.

I went to the auditions, I got a role. I went to all the rehearsals. I went to the show and there's just nothing, absolutely nothing, no greater feeling than being on that stage. Then being under the lights then showing. Then sharing a performance with people that you care about. You're, you're sharing it to the world.

People that have come there to see you and you are doing it alongside people that during the whole process that you come to care about, you come to care about as individuals and Katie Gallagher is certainly one of those people. I'm forever indebted to her. I will support her until the day I die. And that is what I love about this whole thing that we're doing.

People that are creating stuff that are putting themselves out there. If you're already a really good person, People are going to support you. And I will forever support Katie Gallagher because she is such an amazing person with great intentions for music is great. She's super talented, super nice. And I cannot thank her enough for that.

So I will continue showing her support by the form of in likes, streaming her music on Spotify, going to shows if I can, when I'm back in town. I don't know whenever that will be, but, uh, thank you, Katie, for joining me on this show. So the Troy Parker show, if you miss Monday's episode, you can go back and check it out.

We had the debut of my social media director, Kara gray, super pumped that she is joining the squad here. She's putting out a bunch of cool stuff on Instagram at the Trey Parker show Tik TOK, the Troy Parker show making some cool videos also on YouTube we're posting clips from the show highlights from the show.

The full Monday podcast is going to be available on Mondays. Every Monday, right. As the audio version of the podcast goes up. So if you want to watch the podcast, you can check it out there. Thursdays we'll post clips from the shows we'll post the highlights. We'll post it on our stories. I'll continue to do so on my account.

Troy underscore Farkas as well. You can check out Karen super pumped to have her on the team, but, uh, it was not easy road to get there. And so I actually posted a video on YouTube yesterday. On my YouTube channel about hiring and how difficult of a process it is and how much empathy I have for hiring managers now.

And all the times I've cursed their names under my breath before for why are they not hiring me? Why are they not responding to me? I fully get it. And so I talk about that in a new video, over on my YouTube. Channel, uh, also going to have a blog on Friday on the Troy of show.com about a takeaway from this Katie Gallagher conversation.

Every Friday, I'm going to be posting a takeaway from the interview that I have on, on the Thursday podcast. So I'm going to have something from there as well. The trademark show.com. You can find all of the quotes from the shows. You can find all of the charities that are talked about as part of the. The weekly on national initiative, you can find the episodes.

There's the YouTube videos on there. This is your one-stop shop for the Troy Farkas. Show me and Kara running the show, hopefully more. And all of you. Thank you all for listening. I hope you all have a great weekend. I hope you have some adventure. I hope you do something fun. I hope you get outside. I think the weather is getting pretty nice.

I know that I'm going to hop on the bike. I'm going to go on the cherry Creek trail and Denver, at least I think I'm going to do some fun things. Get some new experiences and, uh, Just love life. I'm here out in Colorado to have some new experiences, to do fun things, to check things off my bucket list. I can't wait.

I hope you guys all get to do the same thing. I'll be back on Monday, new episode, new writing, new essays, new thoughts on things. Things that I think can make the world a better place, but until then have a wonderful weekend and remembers be a good person. Do the right thing. . .